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	<title>Comments on: Memo: John Wayne is Dead, and Arnie Has a Day Job</title>
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		<title>by: FIRST SERGEANT</title>
		<link>http://www.ncobrief.com/index.php/archives/memo-john-wayne-is-dead-and-arnie-has-a-day-job/#comment-13998</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2004 00:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Firstly I will take your comments re loonie vets  as coming mainly from the SVN campain as the dribble of someone who has no clue. Yes there are those morons who clamber around the likes of Kerry however how dare you sully the memory of the 58,000 or so who gave thier lives in that godforsaken place by your ignorant generalisation. The percentages of loonies I would dare to say is no higher or lower than that of WW2, Korean or any other veterans.I would suggest that you keep to the facts-if you cant go join up with the Kerry brigade</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly I will take your comments re loonie vets  as coming mainly from the SVN campain as the dribble of someone who has no clue. Yes there are those morons who clamber around the likes of Kerry however how dare you sully the memory of the 58,000 or so who gave thier lives in that godforsaken place by your ignorant generalisation. The percentages of loonies I would dare to say is no higher or lower than that of WW2, Korean or any other veterans.I would suggest that you keep to the facts-if you cant go join up with the Kerry brigade
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		<title>by: Dave Bell</title>
		<link>http://www.ncobrief.com/index.php/archives/memo-john-wayne-is-dead-and-arnie-has-a-day-job/#comment-13952</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2004 07:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Well, as far as the quality of a movie goes, compare &lt;i&gt;Tora! Tora! Tora!&lt;/i&gt; to &lt;i&gt;Pearl Harbor&lt;/i&gt;

Some of the film-making choices, such as the hospital material in &lt;i&gt;Pearl Harbor&lt;/i&gt;, are different ways of showing the same event.  But overall it's a terrible film.

And add to that the time needed to make a film.  It's a much longer process these days.

Finally, while there may be something in production, I'd be surprised if anything were released before the Election.  And getting the political overtones of the movie wrong could be a killer.

Even "Casablanca" had the luck of being released at the time of Operation Torch, so people had heard of the place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as far as the quality of a movie goes, compare <i>Tora! Tora! Tora!</i> to <i>Pearl Harbor</i></p>
<p>Some of the film-making choices, such as the hospital material in <i>Pearl Harbor</i>, are different ways of showing the same event.  But overall it&#8217;s a terrible film.</p>
<p>And add to that the time needed to make a film.  It&#8217;s a much longer process these days.</p>
<p>Finally, while there may be something in production, I&#8217;d be surprised if anything were released before the Election.  And getting the political overtones of the movie wrong could be a killer.</p>
<p>Even &#8220;Casablanca&#8221; had the luck of being released at the time of Operation Torch, so people had heard of the place.
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		<title>by: Stryker</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2004 04:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You must have overlooked paragraphs 1 and 6.

And as far as I know, Hollywood didn't make that film, Lumpy did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must have overlooked paragraphs 1 and 6.</p>
<p>And as far as I know, Hollywood didn&#8217;t make that film, Lumpy did.
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		<title>by: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.ncobrief.com/index.php/archives/memo-john-wayne-is-dead-and-arnie-has-a-day-job/#comment-13942</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2004 03:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You may be overlooking the obvious. Hollywoods HAS MADE one movie about the current war in Iraq. It's called Farenheit 911.  Maybe Hollywoods doesn't think that anyone else could top that one's box office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may be overlooking the obvious. Hollywoods HAS MADE one movie about the current war in Iraq. It&#8217;s called Farenheit 911.  Maybe Hollywoods doesn&#8217;t think that anyone else could top that one&#8217;s box office.
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		<title>by: Stryker</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Eh, they'd screw it up, per your post about Hollywood &#038; the Military. I mean, do you really want a movie that will portray military folk as either Uberhuman Saviors of the World or Pathetic Victims in Need of a Hug?  Viet Nam cornered the market on pussy vets, and I'm sure there's a few veterans who resent that the only thing they and their war are known for are skanky college kids and screwy vets who couldn't cope with the world.

People give old WWII movies a bad rap, but I see layers of complexity and good characterizations that aren't found in a lot of entertainment today.  Hell, my psuedonym's character in Sands of Iwo Jima isn't some two-dimensional joke.  The guy was an alcoholic, a bad father, and a guy who had problems of his own, but he managed to carry-on and do his job anyway. I don't think you'd see anything like that come out of a writer's head today. They'd have to explore Stryker's nuerosis' and make him into some sort of tragic hero instead of a guy who was just trying to get by in the world and keep his guys alive at the same time. Or, they'd make him into a tortured soul who can barely deal with everything he sees.  Either way, he would be a weak character if the movie were made today and the flick would probably suck.

As far as recent history goes, the only big movie to come out of the Gulf War was Three Kings, which was pretty good, but there had to have been more stories to tell than that. 

The only other military movies of note have been SPR, Band of Brothers, and Kelly's Heroes.  They all dealt with WWII.  Just about all of the Viet Nam movies have been Platoon remade over and over again, and from a pure film standpoint, Platoon was a so-so movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh, they&#8217;d screw it up, per your post about Hollywood &#038; the Military. I mean, do you really want a movie that will portray military folk as either Uberhuman Saviors of the World or Pathetic Victims in Need of a Hug?  Viet Nam cornered the market on pussy vets, and I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s a few veterans who resent that the only thing they and their war are known for are skanky college kids and screwy vets who couldn&#8217;t cope with the world.</p>
<p>People give old WWII movies a bad rap, but I see layers of complexity and good characterizations that aren&#8217;t found in a lot of entertainment today.  Hell, my psuedonym&#8217;s character in Sands of Iwo Jima isn&#8217;t some two-dimensional joke.  The guy was an alcoholic, a bad father, and a guy who had problems of his own, but he managed to carry-on and do his job anyway. I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;d see anything like that come out of a writer&#8217;s head today. They&#8217;d have to explore Stryker&#8217;s nuerosis&#8217; and make him into some sort of tragic hero instead of a guy who was just trying to get by in the world and keep his guys alive at the same time. Or, they&#8217;d make him into a tortured soul who can barely deal with everything he sees.  Either way, he would be a weak character if the movie were made today and the flick would probably suck.</p>
<p>As far as recent history goes, the only big movie to come out of the Gulf War was Three Kings, which was pretty good, but there had to have been more stories to tell than that. </p>
<p>The only other military movies of note have been SPR, Band of Brothers, and Kelly&#8217;s Heroes.  They all dealt with WWII.  Just about all of the Viet Nam movies have been Platoon remade over and over again, and from a pure film standpoint, Platoon was a so-so movie.
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